(It even had my 2017 W&T post on Mike Stroud.) I say this because in my long life Ive heard a few claim Pres. This is a podcast for those that are wanting to understanding the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, and the restoration of the House of Israel. If they testify to the reality of the spiritual world and that the gifts of the spirit may be enjoyed in this life they get the modern equivalent of being burned at the Stake. Authors reaction. It takes the seeker after a sign to the next level. 64-73, National Audubon Society, as reproduced on the Morris K. Udall website section -- MS 325 -- of the University of Arizona Library Manuscript Collection, retrieved July 23, 2018. Mike Stroud is teaching all of these NEW and EXPERIMENTAL concepts that are NOT based on any scriptural truths or words of the Prophets. One does not expect everyone to recognize such but we should be prudent enough to listen to those who we might think were well apprised of discerning Good and Evil. In sharing that vision those that feel threatened wanted to kill him and he was directed to leave after going back for his familys set of scriptures that was in the possession of Laban. Guilt. There more from the doc that could be discussed. Release date: Oct 30, 2010: Booking location: Leon County, FL: Booking location: In one, the words were, this is love. In the other, I care. I cant even wrap my head how he spun the unvaccinated into the covenant if death. Michael and Amy began their career in the San Francisco Bay Area working for Ernst & Young, and started raising their family of six children. It also hinders our ability to love. These Indians ate insects, had degraded down to such a state that truly, with the loss of the Spirit of the Lord, they had become a dark, and loathsome, and a filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations. He uses only scriptures and teachings of Latter-day prophets in his podcasts. Stroud most definitely does not set himself up as a leader or prophet of any kind. Caring and love. The more youre loved, the more youre hated. The timing of the restoration of the nation. Utah Historical Quarterly. I was sickened to hear Visions of Glory was banned from Desert Book. Why not? Seems like there must be more to the story. Where there is fear there is uncertainty/darkness. Michael, nice comments. I do spend 30-60-and more minutes every day in prayer. But Stroud uses the Book of mormon itself to promote his new meanings and speculative and new definitions of basic gospel teachings. The Deseret Weekly. Mike Stroud may have bore testimony of the church and the Brethren in one breath but in the next he bore testimony of the fact that their job is only one of a preparatory role. Learn how your comment data is processed. No one would feel lesser because God has blessed one person in certain ways that he has not blessed them. And as the author rightly conceded he never actually used the term astral projection. It was inappropriate to teach that people should seek to receive priesthood ordinations outside of the ordained channels found within the Church, and that priesthood healings and ordinances should be practiced using a prescribed format and that they can be performed over the phone. There are tens of thousands of us all across the conservative movement. Well there be many reasons; the main one probably being that while anyone with a spirit of prophecy is by definition an prophet, there can be only one that is The Prophet, since otherwise esteeming each other as prophets would result, or opens the door to mischief. youre going to look a bit foolish when you say something like, oh, well these people all had visions and those were real, but these people having visions are making false claims or deceived by Satan or whatever.. But there are some things are easily disprovable which Ill I will now address. Maybe if they quote enough scriptures about false prophets, itll validate the claim about the person theyre accusing. Robert Alan Goldberg, L. Jackson Newell, Linda King Newell. Upon concluding his mission, Michael attended and graduated from Brigham Young University with a degree in accounting and information systems. Perry, James M., reporter, National Observer, "This Fella from Arizona", in Audubon, November 1981, pp. 9 reviews 2018 Edition - Includes Section Seven - World's Without End. The lies will be exposed and the truth will spill out like water. She only came to tell him about this vision she had. When they are learned, they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not, And THEY SHALL PERISH. Whether Spencer had the experience or not is irrelevant. LDSFreedomForum.com does not necessarily agree with all content posted by users of this forum. His books speak for themselves. the FRUIT of a good tree is good fruit, a bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit. Christ visiting hundreds and thousands of people at the same time at the temple in Bountiful with rings of fire around the children andgranting translation to the 3 Nephites. Rush. [2:16] The doctrines of the Second Comforter, calling and election made sure, translation, and the calling of the 144,000 are among those specific sacred concepts that should have been spoken with more care and by constraint of the Spirit. Rush on Facebook. Im a big fan of moderation and pluralism, but I continue to see a lot of talk about what the Church obviously should do. Merlin Olsen, NFL star turned TV star [58] Mark Schultz (wrestler), Gold medal winning wrestler. This one was not difficult at all to discern the authors deception. Then they came down and did something about it. This is a sad outcome to befall a man who had a lot of spiritual gifts to share. The grandparents shared a pie with some local American Indian friends, and they were later given a crude type of pie in return. Where are the stories of single mothers working desperately to provide food for their children, even to the point of offering their bodies to men of power who exercise unrighteous dominion? Mike and Bryce explain why understanding the truth is so vitally important. Because of the higher calling that theyve appointed themselves to, all other rules can be ignored. Anything God wants you to know is either (1) already in scripture or (2) told direct to your mind. And then Christ goes and talks about all being one , and that eternal life is to KNOW HIM in John 17. Evan. David Whitmer believed Jesus Christ appeared to him in the form of a deer, for pitys sake! Michael's net worth hovers over $100,000 - $249,999 with a yearly income that's about $200 - 249,999. I have also pondered a time or two about that fact that when Christ read the scriptures that had been kept by the Nephites he asked why Samuel the Lamanites warnings had not been kept as scripture..So that tells me that Samuel the Lamanite was NOT considered to have been given the gift of prophecy, or he was not a respected source of information when he was alive. That means if you make a purchase from a link you click on, I might receive a small commission. How can we discuss or share experiences if we are afraid that we will be labeled as extreme or potentially get excommunicated for seeking after what Joseph Smith taught we should all be seeking after and that is our second comforter experience. When his grandparents cut the pie open, it was filled with black Mormon crickets. What Does Eh Mean In Texting, Mike was not contradicting the Savior at all here. But that is my own evolution, and is in no way precipitated by anyone speaking from a voice of authority. As I have looked at the Ezra's Eagle prophecy from the apocrypha directly, I have noted many additional insights in The Last Days Timeline as I pondered Ezra's Eagle steadily for 5 weeks. Such are the fruits of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and as such, will ensure that we remain separated from Him and from each other. Astral travel during sleep is a bit different than doing in consciously obviously because we dont know were doing it. We have information on 910-692-9945, including Michael B Rush's name, address, and background checks with criminal records. Alas, it is so widespread that to fill the roles in a typical ward one might have to dig into the barrel and choose some people that ought not to be chosen. Scootb28, I admire your own zeal for Zion and Im with you on that. [A]t this point in time, in the day of the gathering of Israel, there has never been a more appropriate time for us to obtain the power and knowledge, wisdom and understanding from the Book of Mormon through revelation and angelic ministry than right now. As you read the chapters in the Book of Mormon, identify beforehand the characters that you will be reading about. But without love you wont probably care, and if you care, it is because of love. This reminds me of the community of people who experience Near Death Experiences. Click a location below to find Michael more easily. Christ also told us that by their fruits shall we know them. I have heard a number of accounts of people claiming to have received a personal audience with the Savior, and after some were instructed by Him to share certain things about their experience, Church leaders told them to be quiet. So what did Brother Stroud teach? It strikes me how much the church has changed even in my life time The increase skepticism and unbelief is remarkable.I can remember G.C .talks on having your calling and election made sure and the importance of hearing the more sure word of prophesy. 97. I put it this way because too many people think that love is an action word, and for them perhaps it is. Ill first quote Mike Strouds statement, then the authors reaction and then my own response. And trust and hope wanes. When Visions of Glory was first gaining popularity a few years back, this was one of many teachings that got highlighted in critiques from FairMormon and Meridian Magazine. If God offers gifts, are we supposed to disrespect the gift by refusing to seek after it?. Turning again to Alma: 30:53 But behold, the devil hath deceived me; for he appeared unto me in the form of an angel, and said unto me: Go and reclaim this people, for they have all gone astray after an unknown God. 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