All this happened when I was ready to get on the water. I also tried it with the tab retracted and gate deployed but all I can remember was the tab wave was better. It's easy! If they don't resolve them then work through Malibu. The boat should be evenly weighted from side to side to make a wave. They look identical to the factory hinges Malibu uses. This includes but is not limited to full windshield panels, towers, molded stainless rub rail pieces, complete biminis, engine storage trays, surf pipes, etc. Sign up for a new account in our community. To learn more about the individual components of Malibus Integrated Surf Platform, check out articles on Power Wedge III, Surf Gate and Quad Hard Tank. You can always just try the old school listing method to surf. You can order their products through sites like DigiKey who carry a lot of their products. An Online Community Forum for Axis Boat Owners, View unanswered posts | View active topics, Board index Axis Wakeboard Boat Forums Discussion Axis Wakeboard Boats - General Discussion, Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests. In the Bow I have a W711 V bag but only feel I'm getting 250 lbs in it. Future tests: I ordered a W707 bag to try more bow weight. TRANSOM WALK-OVER. Let us know if your custom surf gate works - very cool! Fall 2020 I decided to go ahead with a surf gates retrofit on my 2008 Malibu VTX. Just not sure how much Id need to make a notable difference. All the other components are the same as the two actuator system. and the dog approves in one of the first pics. In 2012 when Malibu introduced the revolutionary and industry changing Surf Gate it was just the beginning of an evolution in design, engineering and innovation. Malibu Boats is the worlds largest manufacturer of watersports towboats, owning over one-third of the worldwide market share. I'm designing a similar mount that will allow me to play with different tab designs without drilling a bunch of holes in the back of my boat; hope it works. I can definitely talk you thru questions on the wiring. I have also checked every fuse in the fuse box above the transmission. Creating a perfectly shaped, glassy wave from the back of your boat with a single touch is nothing short of amazing, and theres little to it when you know what youre doing. With innovation at the forefront, Malibu Boats has been honored to receive many awards for innovation, industry-leading products, and all-new technology. I don't know how to help with the gate, but don't call it a day because of that. This was only the start of an advancement in design, engineering and innovation. 2. No new progress on the controls at this time. It took them 3 1/2 weeks. With two decades of expertise as Malibu Boats partners, coupled with our great selection of Malibu & AXIS Boat Parts, Accessories (including Wakeboards & Surfboards! Malibu sells the Wakesetter, M235 and Response models -- as well as the Axis Wake Research brand -- through a global dealer network. Using the same ballast setup I was using before when running the Nauticurl suck gate. AND you need to contact Malibu about the service you are receiving from your dealer. Wet Sounds Rev 8, Rev 10 and Icon 8 tower speakers feature a Malibu-designed G-Force enclosures with waterproof connectors that deliver clean, detailed sound. The Power Wedge III makes your wakes and waves bigger by pulling down the back of the boat and saves gas by automatically getting you on plane faster. DIY or Professional Installs. The first thing you should know is the days of listed surfing are gone. then 90% then 80% then switch to tab fully and add gate as needed It wouldn't surprise me if it turn out to be 60% gate 40% tab. I have W712 Enzo sacs in the rear and feel I'm getting 1150 maybe 1200lbs in each of them. The Luxury Sport V-hull, or LSV, series are the world's best-selling traditional bow towboats. They highlight how inducing to much yaw (with gates) can rob push. Remove the small tabs and gates and install the larger thruster style tabs. Surf Gate is a hydraulic 'gate' mounted on the rear transom of a Malibu Boat, sized for each specific model. CAD said it would clear the waterline coming off the bottom of the hull with my desired retracted angle. International shipping: Malibu Parts is not responsible for additional duties or customs brokers fees not listed at check out. across the wake setter line, our model specific quad hard tank ballast offers you the ability to set the size and shape of your ideal wake with incredible ease. Powered by Invision Community, Device Type : Hinged Gate Style, Tab Style, Control: Powered with Automated Controller, https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7c4bf11e5b00fdb8413327136c54afc9/6/5/650d983d54e01a5085ca7a13bc440061_2.jpg, https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/media/favicon/stores/1/favicon_3_.ico. Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:29 am Malibu Boats, the global leader in watersports towboat sales, has introduced the 2017 version of its ultra-premium M235. On December 3, 1942, my father drove me the 20 miles from Pasadena to the main gate of Los Alamitos, using one of his valuable gas-rationing B coupons. SURF GATE is a groundbreaking innovation that allows for wakesurfing on either side of an evenly weighted boat. Thanks for your thoughts. I assume you checked the fuse panel as well? The Unsurpassed Alphas, the flagship of the iconic Malibu brand, the M-Series. Are you willing to share how you tweaked the code and wired up your 8 relay board? For the family that likes to do it all, choose the 20 VTX crossover boat. Malibu has also shifted the market away from stern-drive boats to high-performance V-drive boats. Once the foil is all the way down . Surf Gate creates a wave on one side of the boat by elongating the hull on the other side and offsetting the convergence of the water behind the boat. They are not a delivery date guarantee by us. My boat has the same hull design as yours. The general rule is if your wave is too steep, put more weight in the front or take weight away from the back. Previously I surfed the boat listed. I got the gates CNC cut out of 3/4" HDPE from a HDPE outdoor furniture manufacturer. Malibu Boats is the world's largest manufacturer of watersports towboats, owning over one-third of the worldwide market share. Orders outside of the lower 48 States (i.e. Malibus legendary wakes and waves all start with the Integrated Surf Platform, or I.S.P. The I.S.P. Malibu didnt become the towboat market leader with its technology alone. Creating a perfectly shaped, glassy wave from the back of your boat with a single touch is nothing short of amazing, and theres little to it when you know what youre doing. So we very quickly found we liked surfing with a tab fully deployed with our initial weight setup and wishing for more tab length or deployment angle. Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:26 pm . _____ 2014 A24 w/ LS3 . Or find themselves in litigation since Malibu has a patent pending. The goal was to have these gates as close to factory as possible thus requiring a surf gate style swim platform. For the family that likes to do it all, choose the 20 VTX crossover boat. I get no movement or noise when I place the gates in service mode which normally would extend both gates at the same time. Dealer replaced a limit switch on one of the actuators. Malibus ISP allows hundreds of customization options. Once the order leaves our facility, it is the responsibility of the carrier to deliver it accurately and safely. For hinges I tracked down some really nice polished stainless hinges with welded pins from Aliexpress. I have the same year and my surf gates have been almost flawless. - Andrew 2015 MasterCraft X-20 (current) 2009 MasterCraft X-2 (sold) . *Things happen. If I could get my boat to do that, Id be super-stoked. It use to work and now nothing. 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If you need your order quicker you can always pay to expedite your shipping as we support a variety of expedited options including: UPS Next Day Air, UPS 2nd Day Air, and UPS 3 Day Select. 2013 Malibu models and 2014 Axis models use the white actuators whereas 2014+ Malibu models and 2015+ Axis models use theorange actuators. FFreichs Post subject: Re: Surf gate won't deploy. If you don't have that black display box where does it tell you on the dash that your gate is deployed? (edited). It sounds like you have some legit issues. It has a small waterproof remote that I strapped onto a jetski wrist strap. No luck in service mode. I added 500lbs of lead on top of the seat as far forward as possible and what a change it made. In every Axis model, you get the remarkable Wake Plus Hull design and patented surf innovations to create the best wakes and waves on the water, bar none. Added 2/25/2023. Just list the hell out of it until you can get them locked down with an appointment to look at it same day drop off / pick up. These aerospace-grade anodized-aluminum swivel racks are corrosion-resistant and ratchet down with the slightest tug on a single lever, now securing any size board. This series is designed to give you the performance and amenities Malibu is known for setting it apart from the competition. You might be surprised how good that wake is. Once the order leaves our facility, it is the responsibility of the carrier to deliver it accurately and safely. I agree with you about the other benefits of a flat tab design and is one of the reasons I'd like to implement that for this season. PlanetNautique Site Sponsor Ad: OK I know this has been talked about before, but the guys over on Mastercraft TeamTalk are working overtime on testing homemade gates they started with the skateramps and quickly graduated to suction cup based designs. When you're ready to surf, fill the Quad Hard Tank and hit the button for Surf Left or Surf Right from the Malibu Command Center to generate a huge, clean wave. But I could be wrong. All the measurements checked out and acouple weeks later I had the first part to my build. That instinct stays with you. All Rights Reserved. The technology was so successful that wakesurfing quickly leapfrogged ahead of waterskiing and wakeboarding as a watersport. Please login and you will add product to your wishlist, Malibu Parts 2022. Malibu's LSV Series features luxury v-drive boats from 22' to 25' long. The one thing Id consider is throwing lead into the trunk, under ballast sac. I built an aluminum bracket to span the fiberglass and give the bracket something to mount to. without having to pick up your phone on the water. For the 2022 model year Malibu brings us a new offering in 21-foot wake sports boats with the Wakesetter 21 LX, which has a "hybrid" bow design incorporating aspects of both a V-shaped bow and the pickle-fork style. You mentioned possibly a different foil. Very nice project, well done! The new Malibu Monsoon line of engines, the M5Di, M6Di, and the LT4, were developed by Malibu to offer unmatched performance, fuel economy, reliability and sound reduction. I can see where the scaring is coming from and how the water flows over/around the platform. Thanks for the help. Eventually the plan is to get the GPS to deploy and retract the tabs. For most of the summer my preference was clearly Tabs. The Nautique Surf System with WAVEPLATE technology is integrated into the hull design to engage on either side of the transom at surf speeds. I've been wanting someone to give this a go, best of both worlds. Malibu originally used an electronic "screw" type actuator to power these Surf Gates, which come in two speeds, orange and white. Adding gates from a cost perspective is mostly about the cost of the actuators which isn't all that bad. I do not have the black surf box as shown in this photo. It's a bit hard for me to quantify the value vs. the time spent to do both for the first time. Rule the water. With the other components of Malibus Integrated Surf Platform, Surf Gate creates the most dynamic playground for wake surfing possible. 3rd test was evenly weighted, tabs and gates fully deployed. I'm on the water and when my wife turned around to get me after surfing, she got a left gate fault retracting. Bought 10 of them. I had similar results that I had with the suck gate, a wave that wasn't clean and that I didn't want to surf. Top . With center tab at 40% (see below FB video), rpm's are running at 3150. Please be aware of your countries' rules and regulations before ordering. If that doesn't work, back to the dealer for warranty work. The isle bag is plumbed in line with the bow bag currently. I personally think the side gate (Malibu style) makes the most sense for wave shape. Please login and you will add product to your wishlist, Malibu Parts 2022. Salt Lake City, Utah. Thanks for posting a link to the Wake9 video. Buttons are a little small to push, but it gets the job done for $80! Today, at the helm of a Malibu boat, you can create wakes and waves that transform the water into the ultimate watersports playground for you and your family. Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:42 pm . The tabs tuck into the swim platform of the boat when not deployed, so you can trailer your boat and use the swim platform exactly how you normally would. When I remove offside Ballast I loose height. Im assuming youre running much more ballast than I am. To enable the Surf Gate, access the SETUP screen in the SWITCH page. (edited). This takes a lot of trial and error with extending and retracting the actuators to make sure your placement is bang on. Im certainly not aspiring to a traditional surf boat. 2022 WATER SPORTS BOAT BUYERS GUIDE. This angled the actuators up to sit more level with the surf gates and allowed me to hide the actuator mounting screws on the gates behind the dress up plates like Malibu does from the factory. All Gain, No Pain There really are no sacrifices that come along with SURF GATE. I like the design of the tige tabs (gsa without the diverter fins, seem to put out just as good if not better wave as the gsa they had before) and Love the actuator mounting method on the swell tabs. Great job. Surf Band lets you adjust the tower speaker volume, boat speed, Power Wedge III and surf side without having to coordinate with the driver. When Ive foiled behind surf boats with big ballast, I was most definitely envious. SURF GATE is now available on all 2014 Axis Wake Research wakeboard boats, including the A20, A22, and the all-new A24. Water ski, wakesurf and wakeboard all day. I've been wanting someone to give this a go, best of both worlds. International shipping: Malibu Parts is not responsible for additional duties or customs brokers fees not listed at check out. They must be an improvement over GSA if they went away from it. We typically back off the gate deployment until we just get scaring on the lead edge lip. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. Imagine a single giant database of boat projects for all brands,organized by category,boat type or budget. My favorite system at the moment I think is the new tige tabs or the supra swell. Riding a smooth, tall wave is easier than ever thanks to a series of innovations developed by Malibu Boats. Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:09 pm . So is the wave with the gate and the tab better enough to justify the additional cost and time? 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